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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Thanks, Peter—we are very pleased to have you here.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Thanks very much, Simon.

Last but by no means least, Kirsten, do you want to introduce yourself?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. We are very pleased that you are here.

We want to cover some of the ground that the joint Auditor General and Accounts Commission report covered. As I mentioned, if you want to come in, it would be helpful if you could type RTS or “request to speak” in the chat box. Do not feel that you are all obliged to answer every question that we put. If you have a particular hankering to come in, we will come to you, but there might be some areas on which you do not have a particularly strong view.

First, I want to ask a fundamental question that is posed in the report, which is about what people’s experiences are and what challenges they face when they try to access mental health services. I will go to Jo Anderson first.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

I thank Peter Kelly and the other contributors for those answers. Unfortunately, due to time limitations, we will not be able to take everybody who wants to come in on every question. I shall exercise egalitarian principles and make sure that everybody gets a reasonably equal amount of time. I apologise to those who wanted to come in on that question, but I will move things along and invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to the witnesses.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Both Simon Porter and Peter Kelly indicated that they want to come in on that question. We will go to Simon next.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

In the time remaining, I will invite Graham Simpson to lead a discussion on an area that the committee is keen to get your views on.

Before I do so, I should say that we would very much welcome any written submissions that you want to provide the committee if you feel as though we have not covered some of the ground that you wanted us to cover. We have been really up against the clock this morning. We have been presented with a lot of rich evidence, which we will be keen to look at in more detail and reach some conclusions on, but we would really appreciate it if you could provide a written submission on anything that we have not covered.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Our principal agenda item this morning is agenda item 2, which is further consideration of the Auditor General for Scotland and Accounts Commission report “Adult mental health”. I welcome everybody to the meeting—we are very pleased to see you. The committee is taking evidence today in a round-table format, which will allow for a more freewheeling session in which we will draw on the experience of the witnesses and the people whom they represent, both in the room—which I will come to shortly—and online.

For those of you who are online—which is the majority of you—if you want to come in at any point, please request to speak via the chat box; that will assist us in making sure that you are brought in when you want. I also ask you to keep your audio and camera on at all times. Your audio will be operated through the Parliament—we will turn on your microphone for live audio when you want to speak.

As is customary for the round-table format, I begin by asking people to introduce themselves and their organisations. We will go round one by one, starting with Jo Anderson, who is with us in the committee room.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you, Meriem; that is very helpful.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Thanks. The expression that the Auditor General used was “slow and complicated.” Do you think that that sums it up quite well?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Richard Leonard

I will ask Jo Anderson to answer that. I will then bring in Peter Kelly on the same general theme and others who might have a response on the GP gateway point that Graham Simpson raised.