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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

You have not issued that to us yet.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Okay. I am just trying to understand. The project started in 2016. I presume that there must have been an understanding that staff training would be required before the system went live. Was that not planned in advance of the system going live?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Why has it taken six years in the first place? Is that not unusually long?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Okay. I am also bound to ask whether that is on budget.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Okay. Thanks for that answer and your other answers.

I thank Sharon Fairweather, Geoff Huggins and Yorath Turner for their contributions. That ends the public part of this morning’s session. We will now go into private session.

10:12 Meeting continued in private until 11:39.  

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Okay, I will look keenly at the language that is used in that regard.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Do you not think that primary legislation would be required to do that?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

For clarification, I would like to take you back to a couple of points that you made in your answers to Colin Beattie. First, will a project such as the proposed Highlands and Islands’ air traffic management system change or will the series of Police Scotland IT initiatives, which are listed in the programme—I think that there are four of those—get ministerial sign-off?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Is there not any kind of threshold that requires ministerial approval? In the context of the ferries, we have discussed the role that ministers have clearly played in signing off the award of contracts, preferred bidder status and so on, so I am trying to understand whether there is an equivalence in the ICT area. Is ministerial sign-off part and parcel of the routine way in which such projects are given the green light?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Leonard

Who chairs that, Mr Huggins?