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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. I will move things on by inviting Graham Simpson to ask you some questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

I am not sure whether you grasp what I took to be a fairly fundamental criticism of the funding arrangements. In part, that perhaps reflects Mr McMillan’s point that the briefing is clear that there is a direct correlation between areas with high levels of deprivation and the requirement for additional support for learning in those areas.

Are you satisfied that the current funding arrangements meet the challenge that is created by deprivation, inequality or, for example, the issue of English not being a person’s first language, which you have mentioned a couple of times this morning? Do you think that the funding arrangements properly address that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

Just for completeness, Laura Caven, you are a co-chair of the project board. Who is the other co-chair?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

Is she from the Scottish Government?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

I will take that as a yes.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

The SEEMiS system is the Scottish education management information system, is it not? It is the data collection system.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

I will go to Stuart McMillan, who has a question about an earlier point.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. Thank you.

Two members of this committee at this time still have questions to put to you. I will move straight along and invite the deputy convener, Jamie Greene, to put his questions to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

Sure—we will get to those.

We will get to other areas, too, but I just want to get on the record whether you accept the key messages at the start of the briefing. We will get into the criticisms from the Auditor General and the Accounts Commission in more detail later, but key message 2 says that there are

“inconsistencies and gaps in data recording.”

Do you accept that that is a deficiency in the way in which things are working at the moment?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Richard Leonard

I will ask Laura Caven the same question. Does COSLA accept the briefing paper’s findings, recommendations and key messages?