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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Richard Leonard

As I understand it, you audit the Scottish National Investment Bank. Is that correct?

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Richard Leonard

Good morning, and welcome, everybody, to the 32nd meeting in 2023 of the Public Audit Committee. We have received apologies from Colin Beattie.

The first agenda item for members to consider is whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Richard Leonard

Two years ago, the House of Commons Select Committee on Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy was fairly direct in its conclusions. It said:

“we believe that until Mr Gupta restructures his GFG Alliance companies into a more acceptable corporate structure and publishes consolidated accounts that are adequately audited ... he fails to fulfil the criteria that we believe should be applied to define a fit and proper person for the purposes of receiving any form of Government support.”

That is a pretty direct assessment of where we are, is it not?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. We have some questions about the European structural and investment funds that Willie Coffey wants to lead on.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Richard Leonard

They were not aimed at you in particular, Graham.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay, but there is mention in the report of associated risk, which would be of interest to the committee.

May I just check something, Carole? You mentioned March: will you get an answer by March on whether the Government will conduct a review, or will it have conducted the review by March?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. That is helpful.

I will move on to the final area, which is climate change. You mentioned some of the difficulties—to put it diplomatically—that surrounded the deposit return scheme. Do you have a view on the likelihood that the new projected timeframe of implementation by October 2025 will be met?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. As Stuart Brown called out Andy Witty’s organisation, I think that we need to give him the right to reply before we move on.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Richard Leonard

I am conscious of the time, and we are anxious, before we conclude, to cover topics such as the Scottish Funding Council’s new model of distribution and what impact that will have. We will also turn to the Withers review.

I invite the deputy convener, Sharon Dowey, to guide us through the final section of our discussion.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay—thank you. I know that Stuart Brown wants to come back in—you will have another opportunity, Stuart, before we finish up—but I am keen for Willie Coffey to lead the next part of the conversation.