The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Richard Leonard
So, what happens between now and April 2025?
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you. That would certainly be a useful thing to do.
One of the other areas where I was struggling a bit to make the comparisons and to understand the narrative that is in the submission to us is around the estate strategy. I think that Stuart Dennis might have clarified matters a little for me earlier, but just so that I am clear about this, if I look at the overall figure for property, we are told that there is going to be an estimated financial saving of in the region of £2.2 million over a 10-year period. That is an average saving of £220,000 a year. We are also told in paragraph 78 that the Glasgow accommodation cost rise is in the region of £298,000. I want to make sure that I am comparing apples with apples. That is a one-year figure versus the 10-year figure for the net saving. It is helpful if the units are immediately comparable, but I am not sure that they are in that case. Could you develop that and explain to us what the increased costs are, what the decreased costs are and what the net position is over a one-year, a three-year and a 10-year period?
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Richard Leonard
You are talking about a revenue to capital budget transfer during this financial year to help to meet the cost of that change. How will that be funded in future years? As I understand it, any savings that we get will not really start to accrue until 2025, so it will not be next year but the year after that. Is my interpretation correct?
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I want to develop that point.
One of the things that stood out for me was table 2, which shows your budgeted expected income from various public bodies that you charge fees to. If I am reading that table correctly, it says that the proposal is that the audit fees that are charged to further education colleges will rise by 6 per cent, the income generated from the fees charged to local government and the national health service bodies will increase by 8.7 per cent, and the expected fee income from central Government bodies—Scottish Government departments and sponsored bodies—is projected to decline by 1.3 per cent. What is the strategy that lies behind that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2023
Richard Leonard
One of the areas in the report that we are usually very interested in—and we are again, on this occasion—is Scottish Government investment in private companies. I invite Willie Coffey to get us under way on that section.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Yes, of course. Before we leave that particular issue, as you relayed to us, Auditor General, the Lord Advocate has given a commitment to more public accountability and some form of “process of inquiry”—I think that that was the expression that was used—on the conclusion of the litigation. I suppose that two things arise from that. First, do you have any sense of when the litigation will be concluded? Secondly, do you know what the Lord Advocate means by a “process of inquiry”?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2023
Richard Leonard
As a committee, we still have outstanding requests for access to that information and for as much of it as possible to be put into the public domain. We recognise that there probably are commercial sensitivities around some of the information, and we do not want to compromise the yard’s position in any way, but our position remains that there must be maximum transparency. I will not ask you to comment on that, unless you want to.
Another area that has been of routine concern to the committee—again, it is mentioned in your report—relates to the arrangements concerning the Lochaber aluminium smelter, which is owned by the Liberty Group, which is owned by the GFG Alliance, to which there are various subsidiary parts. In exhibit 2, you state:
“There continues to be uncertainty regarding the financial stability of GFG Alliance”.
Would you care to elaborate on that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Okay—go on then.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you. Of course, the progress that we are making towards the net zero targets and decarbonisation remains central to the considerations of the Public Audit Committee.
On that note, I thank you, Auditor General, and I thank Richard, Helen and Carole, for the evidence that you have given us this morning. It has been very useful, as always. It has triggered some potential areas into which we might dig a little deeper, and it has given us plenty of information to consider if and when we have an evidence session with the permanent secretary. Thank you very much.
I now move the committee into private session.
10:57 Meeting continued in private until 11:21.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2023
Richard Leonard
It is a simple question, Auditor General; it is a yes or no question.