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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Alistair Wylie wanted to come in on that point, and perhaps also on an earlier point. Over to you, Alistair—the floor is yours.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Should you not have been aware of that? Did you not have somebody from UHI’s court or a central figure from UHI who was in attendance at meetings of the board of management of Perth College? Is that not the channel through which such communications would be made and awareness would be raised about the budget situation and the lack of a budget?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Thank you—that is very clear.

Alistair Wylie, I am bound to ask you this, because you are now the interim chair of the board of management, but you were, over this period of time, a member of the board. Can you confirm whether you were a member of the board that did not set a budget in 2023-24?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Did it go to a vote, for example? How was that concern expressed?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed. I turn to the Scottish Funding Council and invite Jacqui Brasted to give us an opening statement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Okay. Colin Beattie has some questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Okay, but you were in attendance at a board of management meeting on 23 October 2024. The minute on page 8 reads:

“Board Member expressed concern at how quickly the position has moved for the worse since the June Board passed the savings plan, and would not be comfortable passing a Budget”.

As recently as October 2024, at a meeting that you attended, people on the board were expressing that view.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Thank you for your succinctness. Jacqui Brasted, do you accept the findings?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

On that more optimistic note, I will draw the session to a close. I thank those of you who have joined us online. We really appreciate you giving up the time. For those of you who have had difficulties with the weather, I hope that it improves for you soon and that you are properly re-engaged. We therefore place on record our thanks to Vicki Nairn, Mike Baxter and Alistair Wylie. We very much appreciate your patience and time, which has been very useful to us, this morning.

I also turn to the witnesses who have managed to make it into Edinburgh. I thank you all for the evidence that you have given us as a committee. It is very much appreciated. Tiffany Ritchie, Jacqui Brasted, Catherine Etri and Lynn Murray, we thank you for your time and for the information that you have been able to give us this morning and the way that you have answered a quite wide-ranging set of questions.

I now suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

11:17 Meeting suspended.  

11:22 On resuming—  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Good morning, and welcome back. Agenda item 3 is consideration of the Auditor General’s report “NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”. I am pleased to welcome to the committee Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General, to give evidence on the report. This morning, he is joined by Leigh Johnston, senior manager at Audit Scotland, and Bernie Milligan, audit manager at Audit Scotland.

We have some questions to put to you, but before we get to them, Auditor General, I invite you to make an opening statement.