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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 3 October 2024
Richard Leonard
Has the job evaluation exercise itself been completed? Have recommendations been made on job roles and the grades that go with those?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 3 October 2024
Richard Leonard
Tricia Meldrum, do you know the answer to that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 3 October 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. We now move into private session.
10:29 Meeting continued in private until 11:31.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 3 October 2024
Richard Leonard
No—thank you for correcting the record.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 3 October 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed.
I will begin by asking a question for information. I want to get an understanding of why the annual audit reports of a number of colleges—University of the Highlands and Islands colleges and Forth Valley College, I think—are not included in the report. Are there reasons for that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 3 October 2024
Richard Leonard
It might not be your role, but perhaps you could help by pointing the committee to whose role it is to look at the equality impact of some of these cuts to courses and the types of courses that are made available. As you say, for many people, colleges are a bridge to employment, a bridge to retraining and, frankly, a bridge away from social isolation. Do you have any plans to look at that? Is it appropriate that another part of the public sector infrastructure looks at that, so that we can have a better understanding of the contraction in funding that you highlight in the briefing? It does not have an equal impact, does it?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 3 October 2024
Richard Leonard
On the point about catching up, do we know that the terms of the job evaluation, which, as you say, has been going on for nearly a decade, includes back pay?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
And to add an element of menace, no doubt.
I will move on to another part of the report, which struck me as being quite an important piece of analysis that you have presented to us. In exhibit 4, you track the performance of various bodies over the past five years in taking action, or having the ability to take action, where errors or fraud are identified.
What is especially striking is the decline in satisfactory performance, particularly in local government and the national health service. Five years ago, the satisfactory performance rate in local government—which I presume relates to how its systems are working—was at around 80 per cent, but it is now down to 60 per cent. In the NHS, broadly speaking, five years ago, it was at 95 per cent, but it is now at 80 per cent. There has been considerable slippage there, has there not? Will you explain a bit more about what lies behind that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Is the exercise not self-financing? In other words, if I employ three people to follow the work up, on salaries of £50,000 or £60,000 each, will I not get that money back because the work that they do will bring in revenue that was paid out in error or because of fraudulent claims?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay. I think that you described it earlier as something that we should view as a one-off exercise or a point-in-time exercise, but I presume that you have—I think that you mention this in the report—an on-going relationship with the bodies that you work with on the national fraud initiative. Can you tell us a little more about the dynamics of that, how it works and what you are doing to monitor the impact of the activity that you undertake in the exercise?