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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes. Ms Stronach, I presume that your job role involves oversight of public appointments, which is what we will be discussing.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Good. Mr Bruce, could you provide us with a bit more detail about your role in regulating public appointments?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

I have a final question before we get into some of the more detailed points about how the system works in the national health service. NHS governance arrangements were subject to the spotlight of the Auditor General’s report. Indeed, we will speak to the chief executive of the NHS later this morning. Do you have any plans to use your powers of audit and review to look at how things are working in the national health service in Scotland?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Before I move on to Graham Simpson, I have a follow-up to Jamie Greene’s line of questioning. Are there any examples of board chairs applying for reappointment for a second term and being refused?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Was that after having gone through the process, or were they informally told that they would not be successful if they applied for a second term?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Graham Simpson might pursue some of those lines of questioning, but over to you, Graham—you ask the questions that you want to ask.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Fiona Bennett might know. I do not know whether you can answer that question, Fiona.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

As we have no further questions, I thank very much for their input Christine McLaughlin and Fiona Bennett, who joined us remotely. I also thank Caroline Lamb for sharing with us her insights and knowledge about these areas on NHS governance. You said that you might come back to us with further detail on a few areas, which we would very much welcome.

I will now follow the earlier agreement that we reached and move the committee into private session.

12:15 Meeting continued in private until 12:36.  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Is it not also about diversity and having some kind of blend?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Richard Leonard

No, that was a pretty comprehensive starter. That was a really useful introduction. As I said, members of the committee will have more questions in each of those areas.

I want to ask you about the population-based planning approach. In the report, the Auditor General concludes:

“Scottish Government have yet to confirm how this population-based planning will operate.”

Where are we, then, with how that way of planning health services is being developed? What stage are you at with that?