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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

We are up against the clock, but the deputy convener has some important final questions to put to you. Over to you, Jamie.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Does that include clearance from the cabinet secretary?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. “Yes” from the civil service is the right answer. However, it would be helpful if you could go back and clarify for us what was known and when, because that is quite important.

In a newspaper report Mr Tydeman said that he had no idea that he was going to be sacked—that it was almost a summary dismissal. If there was due process, it would be useful to have that put on the record, too.

Mr Irwin, when you gave evidence on 25 January regarding the secondment arrangement, you told us that there was no reference to the Ferguson Marine board. However, Mr Tydeman has told us, in writing, that he made Mr Mackenzie, who was chair of the board at that time—February and March 2022—aware of that arrangement. Again, is Mr Tydeman wrong?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. On behalf of the Scottish Government, Mr Irwin, do you accept the findings of the Audit Scotland report?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

It is published in the papers for the committee meeting.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes, well. Their involvement at the board meetings is interesting.

Mr Miller, while you have the floor, why have no board minutes been published on the FMPG website since 30 May 2024? That is more than eight months ago. For your information, this committee is interested in transparency. I presume that the board has been meeting, and we will get to that later on.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Without a preamble. [Laughter.]

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 2 is further consideration of the report, “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”. This morning, we are very pleased to welcome to the committee a number of representatives from both Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Ltd and the Scottish Government to give evidence on the report.

I extend a welcome to our witnesses. David Dishon, is chief financial officer and accountable officer, FMPG, Andrew Miller is chair of the FMPG board, and John Petticrew is interim chief executive, FMPG. From the Scottish Government, we are joined by the director general for economy, Gregor Irwin. Alongside him are Colin Cook, director of economic development, and Dermot Rhatigan, deputy director, strategic commercial assets division.

We have some questions to put to you on the report, but before we get to them, I ask Mr Miller and Mr Irwin to give opening statements, beginning with the director general for economy, Mr Irwin.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you, Mr Irwin. I call Mr Miller.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

It will need to be the final point before I bring the deputy convener in.