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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 May 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

That would come down to the definition of a glue trap. I might have to turn to my officials about that level of detail about what could constitute a glue trap. We can write to the committee and give you the firm definition. However, to me, a plank of wood with a layer of extremely powerful glue would constitute a glue trap.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

I understand the worry, and it is probably not enough for me to say that it is unlikely that the police would ever fall for or be convinced by such activity. We need to accept that people are still worried about being accused of something and investigated. I was struck by how vociferous Alex Hogg was—I do not quite remember, but I think that he used the phrase “scared to death”—so we need to have due regard to that worry.

I reiterate that I am open to any suggestions that might be made in the committee’s report or might come from individuals about stage 2 amendments that members or the Government might lodge. At the moment, we think that the other offences provide enough of a deterrent, but we are open to suggestions—I cannot say it much more strongly than that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

I know that the committee heard from NatureScot that, to suspend a licence, it would have to be convinced that something serious had happened. It would not suspend a licence on the basis of supposition.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

We are only at stage 1. It is my job to consider any proposal that a member makes ahead of stage 2. Having been on the other side of the table for many years, I encourage members to ask for meetings with me so that we can look at their proposals and see whether the Government can support them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

If we had a date, we would give you it, but we do not.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

I will have to ask for more clarity in relation to your question. Are you saying that there is not a connection between the evidence and what we are doing in the bill? What do you mean by “rational connection”?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

Eleven recorded crimes—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

Ms Hamilton, you are the one asserting that point—I do not agree with it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

Okay—if that is additional to what my officials have already sent, because quite comprehensive evidence was sent to the committee a couple of weeks ago.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Gillian Martin

I get that. That is fine. We will pass that on.

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