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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

There is a more general point here. We want to see innovation in energy generation and a reduction in the emissions associated with hydrocarbons. Anaerobic digestion is a way in which we can decarbonise a lot of our processes—the whisky industry has been mentioned. We should be as supportive as possible on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

I would say no. Heaven forbid that existing plants are polluting, as I am hopeful that they are not in any way. I come back to my earlier point that any plant that is polluting is probably leeching money as a result.

The regulations will be put in place over a two-year period to allow businesses the flexibility to get ready for them. Providing such wholesale dispensation would not be a level playing field at all; you would not expect to see that in the regulation of any other type of energy production. I am not sure that it would be the right way to go.

I come back to Mr Matheson’s point. Where a healthy business is generating a profit and is one of the businesses that is helping the industry to decarbonise, we want to do everything to support it. We would not want any such business to go out of business. If there are issues with any particular plant coming up to the standard, we have to look at that on a case-by-case basis and allow some flexibility. That is obviously an operational matter for SEPA, but it will be listening to what has been said today.

We do not want a burgeoning sector—and an important sector for our net zero goals and for the decarbonisation of industry—to be put out of business as a result of any regulation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

Yes, I will.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

The non-waste AD regulations will come into place on 1 April 2028. That means that, in effect, there will be just under two years of working with the sector to get operators content with what is required.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

Well, I did.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

We are keen for the UK Government to engage with the EU on its ETS scheme so that we have more consistency with the EU. The UK has already modified its ETS rules to be more in line with the EU—we are, effectively, catching up with it. It could be said that we had a loophole, as there could have been a situation in which a plant with free allocations had ceased operations and yet it still had those allocations, which have a value associated with them. So, the instrument tightens things up in a way that is very much in line with what the EU has done, but I am keen to see the new UK Government engage more with the EU on its ETS.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I apologise—it is financial year 2025-26.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Yes, I believe so. It is a statutory requirement, under the Climate Change (Scotland) Act 2009, that everything that we are doing is costed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Absolutely.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

The allocations would be for a particular plant. In other words, each plant would have its own allocations. I am trying to think of a scenario where that kind of transfer would happen. If, for example, a plant started doing the operations associated with another plant, the second plant would have its own allocations.