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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Gillian Martin

In this session, we will focus on examples of initiatives to tackle health inequalities that started before the pandemic—we heard in the previous session that nothing really started during the pandemic, although things got bigger. Our witnesses have prepared short verbal presentations. We will take those in order, and then a round-table discussion will follow. Therefore, when colleagues are listening to the presentations, they should think about follow-up questions to ask our witnesses for more detail.

I welcome Gill Bhatti, employee and diversity manager at South Lanarkshire Council, and Danny Boyle, senior parliamentary and policy officer with BEMIS Scotland and the national co-ordinator of the EMNRN—do you just say the letters like that, or does it have a snappier name, Danny?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you.

I also welcome Emma Fyvie, senior manager of development with Clackmannanshire Council, and Dr Gillian Purdon, head of nutrition science and policy with Food Standards Scotland. Three of you join us online and Danny Boyle is here in person, but I will take you in the order in which I introduced you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Gillian Martin

I will pick up on one thing that you said there and highlight it. In the early lockdown periods of the pandemic, there were particular issues for people with disabilities and parents with disabled children—people who rely on having services coming to their households or rely on services that are out there to help them get through their day and their week.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Gillian Martin

How did that manifest itself for the people you work with?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Gillian Martin

I highlight to the other witnesses that questions about what we can do that is positive will come up later in the evidence session.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you for that recommendation. Claire Stevens’s question is one that we have as well. It strikes me that doing an inequalities impact assessment can save problems further down the line when projects are launched and policies are put into action.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Yes, we can hear you now. On you go.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

That really goes to the heart of the matter, in our inquiry.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you, David. You will notice that we switched you to audio only, which improved your signal quite a bit. We might not be able to see you, but we can certainly now hear you fine.

I will deal with a bit of housekeeping. To those of you joining us online—specifically, the two Davids, David Finch and David Walsh—if you want to come in on anything, please type R in the chat box and my clerk will let me know.

I want to pick up on a couple of things that were said in witnesses’ opening remarks. Gerry McCartney mentioned the place-based approach. I want to delve a bit deeper into your thoughts on that. You said that, to your mind, a place-based approach might not have the effect that people think that it will. We hear an awful lot about the issue from Government ministers and commentators generally. Can you expand on your point?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Claire Stevens earlier talked about those who have simply been left behind or overlooked by public policy and services. We heard from a lot of people in those marginalised groups in our two evidence sessions, a lot of whom had no recourse to public funds. Could you expand on your point? Who did you have in mind when you said that policies and services are not getting to those people or taking those people into account? Which policies and services did you have in mind?