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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

I should mention that we routinely meet health boards, and we can factor into that work quite a lot of the issues from PE1890 and the other petitions. We said that we wanted to do some targeted work on the workforce, particularly in rural areas. That is why we are having the health boards in. We should remember that. I do not want to duplicate work and have an additional session.

You are preaching to the converted, because I am a rural MSP, and everything that has been mentioned is the situation in Aberdeenshire, but it should be remembered that we will be having health boards in anyway, so the petition can feed into the scrutiny that we will be doing in those sessions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

I agree with you. It was mentioned during our work programme day that we wanted to hear from all health boards, so we are endeavouring to do that throughout the year.

Are there any other comments on the approach to the petitions? David Torrance suggested that we should close one, and Gillian Mackay suggested that we should write to all the rural health boards and have the cabinet secretary in.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

You could, of course, look at the outcomes of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee’s consideration of the petition. As David Torrance has said, you could look at its recommendations with regard to the petition, which will be linked to in our committee papers.

Does anyone else have a comment?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

Before I bring in my colleague, I want to ask a follow-up question. There is accreditation, but you also mentioned remuneration for people working in care. Has that also been addressed in the Nordic countries?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you, Dr Connon. I will let you catch your breath for a moment.

You ended by making a point about the ageing population, which is a worldwide concern. Another concern that I imagine affects most countries, and which we are facing in Scotland, is how to attract people into the care sector. An objective of the bill is to make working in the care sector an attractive career, with parity of esteem with our health sector; indeed, that issue came up when you talked about New Zealand. Do you think that, because of what has been done there, New Zealand has less of a problem in attracting people into the care profession? Are there other models that you can point to where there have been good outcomes after reforms have been made?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

Sandesh Gulhane has some questions on that theme.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

I have a couple of questions on that point. You mentioned the countries where there is an expectation of and a reliance on family care. Do those countries give any kind of financial support to those carers, as we do with the carers allowance? Are those families expected to just get on with it, or is there a variation of the kind of support that is provided here?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

And that has a knock-on effect on other measures of a wellbeing society, such as the gender pay gap.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

Yes.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

Two members have put in late bids for questions, but I can only allow two more, as we are running out of time. I call Carol Mochan and then Stephanie Callaghan, and then we will need to wrap things up.