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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you. That is on the record.

As no other members have any comments, notwithstanding Gillian Mackay’s views, does the committee agree not to make any recommendations in relation to the?instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

At our next meeting, on 24 May, the committee will begin to take evidence as part of our inquiry into health inequalities.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

11:02 Meeting continued in private until 11:20.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

I was going to say that we have mentioned commissioning already, so if you want to go to your commissioning questions now, that would make sense.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

I want to ask about self-directed support, because that is one thing that is mentioned when we are out and about in our constituencies and speaking to people who have carers coming in or who have care needs.

Before I bring in Carol Mochan, I want to mention a good point that was made to me about self-directed support by one of my constituents when I was holding a street surgery. She said that her self-directed support is for her, because she is the one in her family with mobility issues. However, she is a mum and a wife and she has a family around her. The support is targeted only at her, which means that, for example, her meals are made but nothing can be done for anyone else in her family. However, if she were able to, she would be making meals for her family as well as herself. Do you hear such things about a whole-family approach? There is something in there about dignity.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you for that summary—it pre-empts my first line of questioning on the pace of implementation of things that will address some of the difficulties that our colleagues and stakeholders highlighted when we spoke to them.

You outlined the work that is going on around the national care service—we are not at the point of having a bill yet and we appreciate that you will not be able to talk about that until it is published, but I have a question on resourcing. There will be work to respond to the consultation and formulate the bill and, once the bill goes through Parliament, there will be work on setting up the national care service. On the other hand, there are all the actions that you are taking now, which you have outlined.

Can you tell me about the resourcing of both? People want to know that both will be fully resourced and that it will not be a case of resources being taken away from the things that are targeting issues now to go into the development of the national care service. Can you give me your thoughts on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Sandesh, have you anything else to ask?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

A number of other colleagues want to come in on the workforce. Does Stephanie Callaghan still have a question on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

I thank the minister, Ms Bell and Ms Barclay for their time this morning. There will be a short suspension to allow the minister and his officials to leave.

10:58 Meeting suspended.  

10:59 On resuming—  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

We will have a final question from Sue Webber, and I will then move on to Paul O’Kane.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Gillian Martin

It depends how many questions you have. If you have lots of questions on commissioning, I will come back to you; if it is just one, that is fine.