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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 May 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I will bring in Sharon Wiener-Ogilvie. We must then move on to a question from Sandesh Gulhane. We have to pick up the pace a little, colleagues. We have only an hour and a half.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Okay. I will bring in Sharon Wiener-Ogilvie, who joins us online.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We move on to training and research.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Does anyone want to respond?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Stephanie Callaghan has a question on that issue.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Do you not agree with the idea of having a co-design process to inform the secondary legislation that will then provide that detail? Would you rather the bill be completely prescriptive about everything and do away with the co-design process, or do you agree that this way of doing things might mean a bottom-up rather than a top-down approach?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

My colleagues will probably dig into the detail of some of that, but we want to keep our focus on scrutinising the bill. The issues that you have highlighted are important and inform what the national care service hopes to achieve, but we need to bring the discussion back to the bill in front of us. I will keep bringing people back to that, because the committee needs to make recommendations informed by witnesses’ evidence.

Tracey Dalling, can you respond to my initial question on the Feeley review?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I presume, then, that the contractual aspect is more a question that you have, because it is not explicit in the bill.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

In that case, do you think that those issues should covered in the framework bill straight off, informed by the work of the Fair Work Convention?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We move on to questions about workforce from Emma Harper.