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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Can we have James’s mic live? James, you will have to say that again, as your mic was not unmuted.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you, Karen. I apologise for not bringing you in at the time—I did not realise that you had asked to come in.

Emma, do you have a final question? We will then need to move on.

15:15  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

That is helpful.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Did you want to comment, Hannah?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

We come to our second evidence session on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. I am delighted to welcome our witnesses. In person, we have Frank McKillop, who is head of policy and research for Enable Scotland, and Andy Miller, who is strategic lead for participation and practice lead for the Scottish Commission for People with Learning Disabilities. Online, we have Dr Caroline Gould, who is a trustee and access auditor for the Skye and Lochalsh access panel; Dr Pauline Nolan, who is head of leadership and civic participation for Inclusion Scotland; and Rhona Willder, who is development manager for the Scottish Independent Advocacy Alliance.

I will put the first question to the witnesses—I guess that I do that every time and I did it with the first panel. How do you feel that the bill could be strengthened? I will go round everyone. Not every committee colleague will have the luxury of going round everyone, because we do not have time, but I will take convener’s privilege in that regard to start things off. I will go to Frank McKillop first.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

That is helpful. We will, of course, have the minister in front of us just before we break for Christmas, so we will be able to put all those questions to him.

I want to go to those who are joining us online. Can Caroline Gould come in?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you. My colleagues will want to come in on a lot of the detail of what you have said. We will come back to many of the issues that you have brought up.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

I remind the witnesses that, if anyone wants to come in on a specific question as they hear it being asked, those who are online should put an R in the chat box and those here in front of us should indicate as much—as Andy Miller has helpfully done.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

The final set of questions comes from Evelyn Tweed.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2022

Gillian Martin

That was mentioned by the previous panel as well, and by a few other people.

We have Dr Gould back. The last word is for you, Dr Gould, before we wind up.