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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

I was looking at the papers and thinking about where you were coming from. It is now on the record.

We now want to talk about care boards. I hand over to Paul O’Kane.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

When we receive that, we will put it up on the website.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

If you are quick. We are almost 90 minutes into the meeting and we are not even halfway through our questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Carol, do you have a follow-up question?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Tess, I remind you that, as part of our budget scrutiny, we have a couple of evidence sessions with the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care in the new year. You might want to pick up that issue then.

The cabinet secretary has been sitting here for nearly 90 minutes, so we will have a break in about 10 minutes’ time. We will deal with one more theme before we do that, because we still have a lot to discuss.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Sandesh, you had some questions on this subject. [Interruption.]

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

We will move on to talk about continuity of the transition to community health. A number of members want to ask questions. Members, if you have a follow-up question, I ask that you make it brief. We are getting to the point where we will start eating into other business if we take too much more time.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Carol Mochan, did you have a question on this?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you. I want to put something on the record. Paul O’Kane mentioned the letter that we received from the minister yesterday; I just want to let everyone know that it is on our committee’s section of the Scottish Parliament website, for anyone to look at. I know that members have read it. We wrote to the minister about terms and conditions, pensions, the workforce and the inclusion of fair work in the bill, so it is quite a comprehensive letter and it is publicly available now.

We will move on to talk about co-design, timing, implementation and evaluation. Emma Harper has questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

I know that I said that that was the last question before we give you a break, but I have one more point. In effect, you are saying that, if the bill is too prescriptive, people who are involved in the co-design process possibly will not have the agency that they otherwise would have in relation to what they want the national care service to do.