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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::I am drawing my questions to a close and am interested in how the review will lead into a public inquiry or something else. Could that sort of truth project stand alone? Would it be worth while doing that, or is it better, as was done down south, to have it relate to or be under the aegis of a public inquiry?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::I will follow on with the same theme, although I do not want to flog it unnecessarily. We were given figures by the Scottish Parliament information centre that come from the national audit in England and Wales last summer. The national audit says:

“500,000 children a year are likely to experience child sexual abuse … Police recorded crime data shows just over 100,000 offences of child sexual abuse and exploitation … in 2024”.

It goes on to say that,

“Of these contact offences, an estimated 17,100 are ‘flagged’ by police as child sexual exploitation”,

and that, within that,

“The only figure on group-based child sexual exploitation”

is

“around 700”.

That suggests, on the surface, that group-based child sexual exploitation is a tiny part of what is going on overall. If that is the case, does that mean that we should not focus on it too much? Alternatively, is the answer either that we do not know what the figures are or that we suspect that the group-based side is much bigger than what has been recorded in the national audit?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::As I understand it, you folk are currently carrying out a review and that will lead to whether or not we have a public inquiry. I do not want to go into the timescale of 18 months, because I think that one of my colleagues is going to ask you about that. However, is one of the review’s aims to enable you to get a better feel for the size of the problem, which will help you to recommend, or the Government to decide, whether there should be a public inquiry? Is that the route that we are going down?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::You sound enthusiastic about that and you have enthused me. That project fed into your public inquiry.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::Would people trust a public inquiry, or is that too formal a setting?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::Perhaps I should know more about the truth project, but I do not. Was it like a public inquiry, with lawyers on both sides?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::I realise that I have not asked anyone else. Does anyone want to come in before I hand back to the convener?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Group-based Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

John Mason

::If survivors are not currently coming forward, and given that you do not sound optimistic that they will come forward during the review—correct me if I have picked that up wrongly—would they be more likely to come forward in a public inquiry, or could we go through the whole process and still have a lot of victims not telling us?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

John Mason

::My question is aimed at those either from COSLA, the health side, or both, because it is about IJBs, which were mentioned earlier. Are they a bad example of public sector reform? It seems to me that we started with two sides, health and local government, that we wanted to be more joined up but that we have ended up with three bodies. We have IJBs and health and social care partnerships as well. The Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill is going through the Parliament at the moment and now, instead of having two organisations involved in service planning for children, we are looking at having three. Has that saved any money or has it cost more? Is that a good example?

I will raise another issue. The committee on the whole seems to be enthusiastic about zero-based budgeting, but I am sceptical.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

John Mason

::The convener and I clearly do not agree about this, so maybe somebody who is enthusiastic about zero-based budgeting could persuade me.