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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 March 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

You said that I was healthily sceptical, so I will continue in that vein.

We have looked at all sorts of things, including commissions, and the point has often been made that there is a need for public inquiries because there is a lack of trust in the public sector. However, the confidence that people have in the SFC—along with others, such as the Auditor General—is exceptional. That is very commendable, and all of you are to be thanked for creating that position, which we want to continue.

Returning to my healthy scepticism, there is a section in your report on the impact of UK Government fiscal decisions. I am interested in that whole space, which we have touched on previously. We can plan all we like, and we can believe that we have a certain deficit or budget gap, only for the situation with regard to winter fuel payments, the two-child limit mitigation or welfare reforms to suddenly change. How do we get the balance right in that regard?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:On the issue of the population ageing, I am just wondering how much I should worry about that—obviously, I am ageing and am about to retire, so that is one angle. More widely, however, we have figures for the percentage of the population that is between 16 and 64, which traditionally was the working-age population. I guess that we will continue to use that demographic so that we can compare the situation with previous years? Is that right?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:Is the health service different in that you have to put more money in almost to stand still, especially if we have an ageing population and all the other factors you have mentioned?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:Your specialism is more in modern apprenticeships and things like that. I am not sure how many modern apprenticeships there are at the moment. Do you have a target for there to be more of them, or is that too simplistic a question?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:If the number were to be 6,000, for example, are you saying that it should be 9,000 or 12,000? Do you have a number in mind?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:I presume that varies a lot, depending what the skill is.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:All the models are more expensive than either taking it straight out of taxation or using the slightly more expensive traditional borrowing.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:In other cases, it can go up to

“2.6 to 3.3 times the construction cost”.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:That is fair enough. The convener also spoke about the performance level of several key public services falling. Let us take health as an example. There are long waiting lists. Is that necessarily because the health service is failing, or is it because people’s demands and expectations are increasing? It is good that there is more discussion about mental health than there used to be. There may not be an increased need for mental health services but there is certainly an increased realisation of that need. Obesity, which was not around so much when I started my working life, seems to have increased. Can we differentiate between demand increasing, on the one hand, and the service failing, on the other?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

John Mason

:On productivity, is it inevitable that the health service will always be more people intensive? I have an issue with my eye and, when I go in for a test, I see somebody to do with distance, somebody else to do with pressure and somebody else who gives me an injection. It is quite hard to see how the health service could cut down the number of people involved in such things.