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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

I do not know whether either of the others wants to come in on that point.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

That is another issue.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

I could explore that further, but we are a wee bit pressed for time.

I have one other question for any of the witnesses. One of the plans for the current year is to take more of the ScotWind money out of the reserve that it sits in. Do you think that there were alternatives to that, or was that just something that we had to do?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

Some people feel that we are already sending too many people to university and that we are short of skills such as plumbing. I have a nephew who did just a year at college but earns very good money through fixing wind farms.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

We are ahead at the moment, though, are we not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

You suggest that we should not raise income tax, in order to give people more money to spend in shops. On the other hand, there seems to be quite a lot of money out there. Given the prices that people were paying to see Taylor Swift, Oasis and, I believe, the Euros—they say that 200,000 people went to Germany for the Euros; if they spent £500 each, that would be £100 million—some people out there have a lot of money. I am not sure that changing their income tax rate would impact on your sales.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

Do you accept that there needs to be some redistribution of wealth or income within the population? Some people have a lot of money and can do a lot of luxury things, but other people are in poverty. It is not automatic that, if we grow the economy, people in poverty are helped, is it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

Okay. That was a bonus question that I had not really planned.

Mr Lonsdale, in your submission you say that you would like

“to reduce the cost of running the government”,

as

“this would ease the pressure on the funding of other services”.

Are there risks in reducing the level of government? We have seen examples—the major recent one was Grenfell—of what happens when there is a lack of oversight and regulation and the Government is not involved enough. Are there risks around health and safety in cutting the level of government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

I will not ask how much you spent. [Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

John Mason

Okay. Ms Manson, thanks for your submission, too. One of your themes seems to be the need to reduce business rates—non-domestic rates. Have you any suggestions for how we should fund that?