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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
Mr Campbell, it has been argued that, if we set a very tight timescale and cost, that would undermine the independence of the chair. Do you agree?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
I thank you both for your answers so far. I particularly enjoyed some of them—I liked the one about having a target of 250 pages for the report. That is the first time that any of our witnesses have said that they set a target for the report. That is one of my questions. How definitely can we set targets at the beginning? I asked one of our previous witnesses what would happen if we told him that he had two years and £5 million and that he should just do the best job that he could with that. His answer was, “I wouldn’t do it.” He did not like the target being that tight. Am I being unfair to suggest that that could happen, Mr Sturrock?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
However, the downside is that somebody reading the report, such as a victim, would not be able to pin down that they could blame a particular person.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
So, people accepted that.
Liz Smith asked you about how things have changed over the years. In your submission, you said:
“The present culture could lead to less openness and more defensiveness”.
If that is the culture that we are in nowadays, that concerns me a bit. If there is a statutory public inquiry, do you think that people will be less open and more defensive, whereas in your type of inquiry, in the hospitals, people were more open and less defensive?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
Well, we will create some more jobs for accountants, perhaps. That is a fair answer.
Earlier, you used the phrase that an inquiry can grow arms and legs. I take the point that something new can come up that nobody knew about, and that is outwith our control—but if an inquiry does grow arms and legs, is that the chair’s responsibility? Is it the ministers’ responsibility? Is it because the terms of reference were not tight enough?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
How does the chair make that decision? You say that it could be that the chair would like to look into it.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
Yes. While you are speaking, I would like to go back to the NHS Highland inquiry, which others have asked you about. I thought that some of the phrases that you used in your written submission were very interesting. You said that it was a “safe space”, that things were “discussed confidentially”, that it was not “forensic” and that there was no “legal advice or representation”. You were asked about people’s satisfaction with that and you sounded positive. Did you receive any comeback on those points, such as that people would have wanted it in public or would have wanted a lawyer?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
Did that make them less open and less candid?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
Do you think that that would not have happened if it had been in public?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
John Mason
Did you tend to use quotations without saying who said them?