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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

It is helpful to hear that you look at different institutions differently. You say that four colleges have a cash deficit and 22 have an operating deficit, but their positions could vary hugely. If they already have deficits and a lot of borrowing, that is a problem; if they have reserves or they do not have much borrowing, it is not a problem.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

That is very helpful. Thanks.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

I agree with the point about local choices, but if a college—in the case of my constituency, it happens to be Glasgow Kelvin College, but it could be many others—has three campuses, it does not have much choice. If a college is tight for money, one of the options is to close a campus. I would just like an indication from the Government about whether you are relaxed about that. Are you worried about it? Are you concerned about it? Will you give us any word that describes your attitude to it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

That is okay. I get that you do not want to commit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

Okay.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

Just to follow up, one of the changes between the financial memorandum and the letter from the Government was £4 million for information technology. That was not there at all in the financial memorandum, and then it suddenly appeared. Presumably, that is joint between the SFC and SDS? I know that that is not our main subject today, but can you say anything about that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

I think that it said that it was assumed that a normal upgrade would cover the IT.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

Thanks.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

We are wandering around and asking each other’s questions today, so it is a bit of a muddle. However, on the bill, I agreed with your point in your intervention on me in last week’s stage 1 debate, convener. Either the Education, Children and Young People Committee or the Finance and Public Administration Committee—Mr Greer and I are on both of them—should look at the financial memorandum and the subsequent letter from the Scottish Government that came in September. It is probably not your decision, minister. I assume that it is for the committees to decide between them which of them should do that and I flagged that up at the finance committee yesterday.

Along with the budget, we are due to get the Scottish spending review, which will look further ahead—about five years or thereabouts—for all sectors. Can you give us any indication, minister, on how much detail will be in that for colleges and universities? Will it help them to plan ahead because the Government is giving more of an indication on the funding?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

John Mason

The finance committee and others thought that we might have got a little bit more detail in the medium-term financial strategy. Given that we did not, we are hoping—certainly, I am—that the Scottish spending review will not be too high level and we will get a bit more detail in that. However, I am happy to give you as much space as you want.