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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

John Mason

Mr Fotheringham, I understand that you and I are both members of the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Scotland, so I will focus on the finances.

Can you explain the system with the management accounts? It appears that some of the accounts did not get to the court in a timely fashion. I assume that the accounts were prepared by relatively junior staff. Did they come to you after that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

The “Future Trends” document says that the risk of experiencing further pandemics is increasing. Are we ready for the next pandemic?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

I will probably follow that up in the future.

You have already been asked about the fiscal framework. Certainly, I feel as though Scotland gets a raw deal, and other Scottish politicians might say the same. Obviously, the Westminster politicians think that Scotland is being dealt with very generously. A couple of years ago—which, I accept, was before you were in post—Shona Robison had those discussions with the Treasury. Where does that leave the civil service? Scottish ministers are expecting support and that you will argue the case for Scotland, whereas Westminster civil servants argue the case for the UK. Is that a problem, or is it just handled?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

You have had quite a lot of questions from my colleagues, so I will pick up on one or two points.

We have talked about reducing the size of the civil service. That is also happening at a UK level, and I wonder how the two interact. If the UK civil service reduces, that might mean that we get less money through the block grant. Are the two combined in any way, or are you just looking at Scotland?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

A challenge that we sometimes have in Scotland is that an announcement is made at Westminster that there will be capital or resource spending, but, because we do not know where that money is coming from, we do not know whether we will get extra money. Sometimes, it will come out of an existing departmental budget and, therefore, there is no extra money, but we do not always know that at the time.

Is that something that civil servants speak to colleagues at Westminster about, or might they not know themselves, because although the Government ministers have made an announcement on new expenditure, they might be borrowing or doing something else? Is that a space in which we can see an improvement?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

So, would we assume that something like high speed 2, which appears to be overrunning, would be within a department’s budget, or would extra money come to us?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

It is a huge area. I just wanted to touch on it today because it had not been mentioned, but I am not going to go into it. However, if Mr Irwin wants to say something, he is welcome to do so.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

The convener asked you about public inquiries, which we have spent quite a bit of time on, and the committee is partway through our inquiry at the moment. Can you give us a little bit of background on what happens when a public inquiry is being set up? Does a minister come to you and say, “I’ve decided to have a public inquiry,” or, “Do you think I should have a public inquiry?”—or does it vary from case to case? It has been suggested that part of the civil service could support public inquiries by giving guidance and support.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

I was looking at the paper “Future Trends for Scotland”, which raises a wide range of issues. I will not ask you about all of them, but I picked out three that are coming along. Can you say anything about how the civil service is dealing with artificial intelligence?