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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

The final key message in the Auditor General for Scotland’s report, “The 2023/24 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”, is on the national performance framework. It says:

“The revision of the National Performance Framework has progressed throughout 2024, and it is critical that the agreed National Outcomes are supported by measurable indicators ... We cannot continue to be a position where indicators do not progress beyond development.”

Is that a fair comment?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

Will you or one of your colleagues explain why some things are included in the consolidated accounts but other parts of the public sector are not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

From a layperson’s point of view, the public sector is the public sector and some people might expect everything to be in the consolidated accounts. Is that fixed in stone, or should we be looking at that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

So, a valuation or an assessment is carried out every year. Does that apply to other interventions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

Some of the countries have two institutions—Portugal, Ireland and Belgium all have more than one. I am not sure what that means. Is one of them subnational?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

That is right. On page 21, the report talks about

“managing the reputational risks associated with”

the challenge. It goes on to say that, because the margin is so tight, there is a greater risk for the SFC. Is that what that means?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

However, as you have said before, it is quite difficult to explain that to the public and to MSPs. If I remember correctly, in the previous review of the SFC you said that the arrangement that we have with Westminster is one of the most complex fiscal arrangements. Is that still the case?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

I have to say that I am surprised by some of the lines of questioning so far, given that the committee is very keen that we see a big change and quickly. Presumably, even if the membership of the board is tweaked at stage 2, we would still need a core board and a chair. That will not change; the Educational Institute of Scotland will not take over the whole board like it wants to. Therefore, surely we can move ahead.

I have been trying to think of other examples to show that this process whereby legislation goes through the Parliament and the Government moves ahead in the meantime and appoints people on an interim basis is quite normal. The example that I thought of is the Scottish Fiscal Commission. I was on the Finance Committee when the legislation to establish the commission was going through the Parliament, and I think that people were in post before it passed.

Whatever the committee anticipates for the Education (Scotland) Bill—there might be major amendments and there might not be—we were in the same position when we legislated for the Fiscal Commission. As I said, I am surprised. I do not know whether the cabinet secretary is. It is quite normal for such things to go ahead in parallel.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

The way that money has been allocated has changed over the years. It used to be about the nine challenge authorities, and now it is about 32 local authorities. I understand the reasons for that: Scottish index of multiple deprivation data is not perfect, which we have picked up in other evidence. Have you done any assessment of how it has affected those nine authorities, which lost a lot of money?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

The word “fair” is always a difficult one. It is really based on the household circumstances now—is that right?