The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
Displaying 3697 contributions
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
Should the committee be worried if no research has been done, and should we say that that bit should be taken out of the bill? If we leave it in, Government ministers would have quite a lot of power and decision-making ability once the research has been done. How would you see that working?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
I turn to Ms Nisbet or Ms Thompson. I have to say that I am getting worried by some of these remarks. We will have to wait for the Government to respond to a consultation that closes on 6 October, but the parliamentary session finishes at the end of March. Things are getting quite tight, are they not, Ms Nisbet?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
What about you, Ms Thompson?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
Fair enough.
A linked issue is that of foster care and the idea that the organisations involved in that work should be charities, which is a slightly different approach. Again—and this is perhaps a question for Ms Burns—is it sensible to have a different approach for fostering?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
Ms Galli, do you want to comment? The others are nodding but I could not see you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
How do we overcome the risks? Is it simply by just moving very slowly?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
The previous panel seemed to feel that we were further on than that and that we actually knew more about the fostering side of things than we did about the residential side.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
Okay. My final question is about the financial memorandum as a whole. On the specific point about profit limitation in residential services, I see that there is a cost to the Scottish Administration in 2026-27 and 2027-28—and then nothing at all after that. That surprises me a little bit, because surely there would need to be on-going supervision. What are your feelings about the financial memorandum? Is it a bit light, as I think the previous panel suggested? Is that your feeling, too?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
You heard what I said in the debate last night, minister. It seems to me that, compared with other bills, this one is all about money—money is central, whereas we sometimes have members’ bills in which money is more at the periphery.
I am interested in the pilot, but we do not have time to go into that today. My question is whether there is room for compromise. If the Government has £5 million or £6 million available, could that money not be used to top up what is presently happening? Lots of parents can afford to pay and are paying for their kids to go. It seems to me that the real problem is whether we can get money to the families and the kids who cannot afford to go. That £5 million or £6 million would make a huge difference. I accept that it would have to be every year and not just for one year.
Could the Government make some kind of offer to put in £5 million to £6 million every year for 10 years or whatever, on the condition that Liz Smith pulls her bill?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
John Mason
I will start with a question for Ms Duncan. If you want to refer it to anyone else, that is okay.
I want to discuss the whole issue of excessive profits in the sector, especially when it comes to residential care. Do you think that excessive profits are being made? Do you think that what the bill proposes, which I think is to give Government the power to do something, not to actually do something, is reasonable?