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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise: Whole Family Wellbeing

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

John Mason

We have mentioned funding, but I want to spend a bit more time on the issue. I should say that I am on the Finance and Public Administration Committee as well, so I am interested in the whole financial side. Linda Richards, I will start with you. In relation to option 4, which is the option that Perth and Kinross Council went with, your paper from 2017 says:

“The implementation of this option requires significant additional revenue investment of £1,700,000”.

It goes on to say that it has

“the potential to reduce the number of external residential placements by 50% over a five year period, resulting in a projected underspend of £201,000 by 2021/22.”

Could you give us a brief summary of how the finances have worked as you have introduced that model?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

I will build on what has been said. You said that the indication is that income tax will not change or be increased between now and the election, and neither will council tax be radically changed. Does that leave us with the problem that we just do not have enough tax income for the services that we want to provide? Countries such as Denmark have much higher taxes as a proportion of GDP. Do we need to consider raising taxes?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

Are you optimistic that you can hold the line of 3 per cent—or 9 per cent over three years—in the face of any pressures? We do not want rubbish piling up in the streets, so bin collection staff have quite a lot of power. In the past, we have also had to provide extra money for colleges.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

I add my voice to that of Michael Marra, who asked whether the lobbying register is of any value whatsoever. It was one of my possible questions, but I will leave it just now.

Other services, such as the national health service and general practitioners, will probably have to absorb some of the national insurance increases, because it does not look as if we will get full compensation from Westminster. Did you consider the idea that MSPs should absorb part of the NIC raise and take a lower pay increase?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

By way of comment, I think that it would have been worth looking at. However, I take the point that an increase of 3.2 per cent is coming up. The budget bid is for a 4.4 per cent increase, and the convener already made the point that, with quite a lot of the commissioners, the national insurance increase is making the normal increases a bit higher.

Does the restaurant use fair trade products much?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

I do not know whether we have touched on this before, but there is a separate line for accommodation under the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman. The accommodation cost for that seems to have gone up quite a lot. I think that you said that it is £144,000 or £145,000, or thereabouts. Was there a particular reason for that, or is it just because the landlord is being difficult?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

Is a collaborative space a kind of hub area where people can just go in and set up?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

I realise that some of this is for the longer term, but you mentioned the fiscal framework, and the convener mentioned the economic performance gap. You said that, under the previous UK Government, renegotiation of the fiscal framework was not on the table at Westminster. Has there been any change in attitude at Westminster in that regard? We are competing with London and the south-east, which is incredibly difficult, and the Barnett formula is squeezing us, too, so I feel that we will be on a bad long-term trajectory unless we can reorganise the whole fiscal framework.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

That is positive. I am sure that we will get updates in due course.

We and the Scottish Fiscal Commission are pleased to have a clear pay policy this year, which is approximately 3 per cent. In its forecast, the SFC has added 1.5 per cent for wages, which is to cover, for example, pay progression. Is that a fair assessment?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

John Mason

Some organisations might need to trim their total numbers of staff to keep within the pay policy.