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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

The University of Dundee has been mentioned today. The committee has discussed the issues there. When did you pick up on the serious problems at Dundee?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

I accept that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Would they not be admitted as if they were new employees starting on that date?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Another aspect of financial sustainability is that the SFC needs to identify at-risk institutions. My understanding is that it already has that ability, but that that will now be put into statute. The committee has looked specifically at the University of Dundee, where the SFC did not seem to pick up quickly that there was a problem. Does the bill go far enough in that area, or do we need to do more?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Do we leave it to the SFC to work out the regime? There seems to be an expectation that colleges and universities will come to the SFC to say that they have a problem, although, clearly, some of them have not done that in the past. On the other hand, the universities are saying, “You shouldn’t be interfering in parts of our work where the research is separately funded.” It seems to me that we need a balance somewhere.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

It says “we believe”, which suggests that it is your view.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

I am not arguing with that. I just feel that your evidence today and your paper are designed to undermine the bill and to paint it as being as awful as it possibly can be. For example, your submission says:

“we believe that the timelines for current reform means that any benefits or unintended consequences of this programme will not be understood for a decade.”

Surely that is overstating the case.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Does the cabinet secretary have any idea what Stephen Kerr’s proposals would cost in financial terms?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

One of my colleagues will ask you more about the committees later on. I was asking more about the general relationship.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Mr Yeates, if it is all more joined up, surely we are going to boost the Highlands and Islands more.