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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
Can I ask about providers exiting the market? For clarity, is the fear that, if we regulate the market more or require providers to not make or at least not distribute a profit, for example, some providers will just walk away and we will then have a problem with a lack of provision? Is that the concern?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
Do you have a clear definition of profit?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
Was that mainly about England and Wales?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
Does anyone else want to come in on that point?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
The bill cannot cover that area as well, but I accept that it is part of the answer.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
I would like to talk about money, profits and so on. Ms Wilson, you tell us that we should learn from the Welsh experience. What should we learn?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
Am I right in saying that Wales is a little less strict than us with regard to fostering agencies, which we say must be charities, and a bit more strict with regard to residential care?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
I have asked other people this question, but they have not been able to answer it; I do not know whether you will be able to. Is it possible to draw a broad line and say that people in private sector residential care get poorer care and people in the public sector or the voluntary sector get better care?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
One assumption would probably be that the lower-paid workers in the public sector are better paid than the lower-paid workers in the private sector. As far as I see it, that is money going to the children, because those are the people who are working with them.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 8 October 2025
John Mason
It strikes me that we could set up a whole pile of bureaucrats and accountants who could study that, and all the rest of it. When it comes to capital expenditure—I have not asked about that; I do not think that I will—the local authority picture is often very different.
I move on to the fact that, under the bill, we are going to deal with residential provision in a different way from foster agency provision. The former will be not-for-profit provision; for the latter, the bill insists on the provider being a charity. Some of you raised that in your submissions, with regard to why that is the case. Are you all comfortable with that difference, or do you think that there should be no difference? Ms Wilson, you can start.