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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 October 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

I do not want to labour the point too much, but let us look again at other professions. If accountants, for example, are new auditors to a business and it is completely unknown to them, they will focus on the risk and look at the areas where there is likely to be a problem; they will not go over the 3 million documents that I am sure that most companies have. All of us lived through Covid—we know 95 per cent of what happened. Should the Covid inquiry not focus only on the 5 per cent of what happened that we do not know?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

This committee carries out inquiries. We invite anybody to send written information, but, for example, today we have invited to come to us only two witnesses this morning and three later on. Is that not reasonable?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

Is that because we have a wrong idea of public inquiries—that they are too legal and that they are too much like courts?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

Can I push you on that point? Does that not lead to people hiding things? If we want people to be frank and open so that we can see why they made their decisions, do the lawyers not curtail that process?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

I suppose that that ties into the rule in the legislation about avoiding “unnecessary cost”. That is quite a subjective term, is it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

Preventing a recurrence is impossible, is it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

Mr Clancy, I am sorry, but I have not asked you many questions so far.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

Is the provision in the legislation about avoiding unnecessary costs enforced in any way? Are you aware of that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

Are you optimistic that the Covid-19 inquiries will help us with those other things, or will they just be ignored?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

If either of the other witnesses wants to comment on that, they are very welcome but, bearing in mind Mr Clancy’s warning that I am using taxpayers’ money with my time, I will finalise my contribution with a question about Ms Dunlop’s committee. What is it called?