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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

John Mason

Yes—we would expect internal and external audit to be involved in that process for the universities, so I will be very interested to see what the report comes out with.

On financial sustainability, we are thinking mainly about universities and colleges, but what about other training providers, such as those in the private sector? Is there any need to oversee them and look at their financial sustainability, or can we simply rely on the private sector to look after that aspect?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

John Mason

So, broadly, you would have more confidence in a bigger organisation than in a smaller one.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

John Mason

Okay—I am happy to leave it at that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

John Mason

I welcome the draft order. I think that it is great that we will get rid of the Glasgow Colleges Regional Board, and I am delighted that the three colleges will be separate. Can the minister say anything about collaboration between the three colleges going forward? Although I want the colleges to be independent, they will need to work together to some extent.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

To an extent, we, too, have to choose who we want to come in front of our committee. There was some good evidence in writing that we are not going to have the chance to speak to people about.

If you cannot answer this, you do not have to, but are inquiries erring one way or the other? Are too many people coming who inquiries do not need to hear from, or are people being missed out who inquiries should hear from?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

To follow on slightly from Michelle Thomson’s line of questioning, I note that, in the introduction to your submission, you state:

“We represent our members and wider society”.

I should declare that I am a member of the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Scotland; we have something similar, and over the years, we have had some debate about that, as there can be a tension between those two elements. Do you think that there can also be a tension in that regard for the Law Society?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

By having to pay for it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

It is difficult to tell what is going to happen in the future, and whether the public will be satisfied by the inquiry. Nevertheless—I put this question to any of you—do you think that there is, in general, an acceptance of inquiry results? Sometimes, the results of an inquiry are announced and we see the family out the next day, complaining bitterly that they did not get what they wanted. On the whole, however, do you think that the public, and the victims, are being satisfied?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

I saw that—it was quite limited.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

John Mason

Dr Ireton, you say:

“There is a strong case for greater use of shorter, focused statutory inquiries, which deliver thematic learning and policy recommendations within 12 to 24 months.”

That sounds quite positive—is it actually possible?