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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 October 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

On the Covid inquiries, it strikes me that we all lived through Covid and we all know roughly what happened. They are spending a lot of time going over things, in both Scotland and the UK, that we all know about already. I wonder how much we are gaining from that. Is there a saving to be made given that, if a lot of information is in the public domain, we do not have to go through it all again?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

Okay. Ms Morgan, I take it that you have been involved in both Covid inquiries. Do you feel that a lot of new stuff is coming to light or are they just going over things that we all knew about already?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

How much of that has come back from the inquiries?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

None of it—so that £12 million has come entirely from the NHS budget.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

Although a military secret would, I presume, still not be revealed under a public inquiry, would it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

Ms Morgan, given what you have said, do you think that the public have become less tolerant over the decades? Is it the case that, whereas, in the past, we just accepted that a mistake had been made, nowadays, there is more of a desire to blame somebody, to get revenge or to dig into things more?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

That goes back to the terms of reference that are set at the beginning, does it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

Whereas in the NHS, for example, a surgeon simply has to work with the equipment and the staff that are available to them.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

I would like to ask you about the figures that you quoted in your submission. You said that it has cost NSS £3.1 million to respond various inquiries since 2021-22. Later in your submission, you mentioned a figure of £9 million for legal services. Is the £9 million the amount that you were refunded and the £3 million the amount that you were not refunded? Could you explain that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

John Mason

That is fair.

One of the things that the 2005 act says—in section 17, I think—is that the judge or whoever is leading the inquiry must avoid “unnecessary cost”.

I will start with Ms Morgan this time. You have been involved in a few inquiries. Do you have a view on that issue? Do you think that public inquiries are avoiding unnecessary costs, or do you think that unnecessary costs are being incurred?