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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

I take your point about providing the best outcomes for children, and you said in answer to a previous question that the process should not be resource led, but do you accept that we have to live within a budget?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Because your submission does not say. It gives the average and the variance, but it does not actually say what you want the payment to be.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

That was going to be my next question—what would you like the figure to be? It is going up to £7.4 million in 2029-30. Should it be double that, or half again? Do you have any idea?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

You are more relaxed about how that is done.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Is that primarily about paying the chairs but not the other members?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

If we played around with that, it would affect the figures.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

I think that the Finance and Public Administration Committee is hoping that it is an estimate rather than a guess. Do the other three of you want to say anything about the financial memorandum before I finish?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Okay. We will chase up other people on that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Mr Forde and Ms Pasternak, you have said more about profit, so I will come to you next. Mr Hogg made a good point about the need to have a clear definition of profit, because the language in the bill seems vague. Section 8 says that regulations

“may specify … how the level of profit … is to be determined”.

Goodness knows that accountants have been arguing over what profit is for hundreds of years, so it seems unlikely that the Scottish Government is going to come up with a definition in 10 minutes.

Can either of you give me your thoughts about profit? Should there be any profit? Should we eliminate profit, or are we talking about excessive profit or something else?