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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

In response to the committee’s consultation, your answer to the question on being held to account talked quite a lot about being audited, which is obviously happening, and the statutory requirements for public reporting. When you are audited, do auditors take into account the national performance framework and how you relate to it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

I have one more question, which follows on from what you have just said. It has been raised with us that, even at Scottish Government level, the national performance framework and the budget are not always closely tied together. Do you have thoughts on that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

That is fine.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

In your paper, you say that bodies are self-selecting outcomes. Can you expand on that, and do you think that that should change?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

It is in the same area. At one of our workshops in Glasgow, the comment was made that the NPF should be more practical and not so aspirational. You are in that space as well. Is the NPF too vague? Oxfam made the comment that there is a lack of time-bound commitments.

I am struggling with this a bit. I see the NPF as being aspirational, which I think is good, but maybe it should not be just aspirational. Does it need to be more than that, or is there a danger that we would just end up with a set of rules if it said that A, B, C and D must be done by 31 December?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

Keith Robson, in your paper, you talk about a national impact framework, which appears to be an attempt to tie the national performance framework and the sustainable development goals together. Is that correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

It is the third-last paragraph. You say:

“the SFC has committed to working collaboratively with the sector and key stakeholders to develop a new overarching National Impact Framework ... to ensure greater alignment”.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

I want to continue for a minute on the idea, which I get, that local outcomes should be valid for national outcomes. We have a problem in that the third sector tends to come to us and say, “If it is happening in Grampian, it should be happening in Strathclyde,” or whatever. That is especially true in health—I realise that you folk are not focused on that—so, if there is a specialist nurse for something in NHS Tayside, we hear that there should be a specialist nurse in NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde. How do we square that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

Thank you. I want to move on to something else. One or two people have said to us that the public does not get excited about the national performance framework, which is pretty obvious. Is that important? Linked to that is the suggestion that we rename it to something such as the national wellbeing framework. Do you have any thoughts on that? Would renaming it and putting “wellbeing” in make a difference?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

I want to ask you specifically about Fife. Am I right in saying that you have a Fife plan?