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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 31 May 2022
John Mason
Oxfam said that there is not really an outcome that relates to care, and it suggested that we might add such an outcome or be a bit more specific about that. Do you have thoughts on that?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
Okay. Thanks.
Dr Phin, when you were answering the convener’s questions, I got the impression—correct me if I am wrong—that you were basically saying that the job of Public Health Scotland is to present the facts, not really to counter the misinformation, and simply to hope that the facts will eventually win out.
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
I will follow on from that line of thinking around contentious issues and debates on social media. Vaccines are an obvious contentious issue, although I think that the majority of people were for them, so let us take the issue of masks instead. That is maybe a bit more of a grey area. People have said that some masks are useful and some are not, that no masks are useful, or that masks are very useful. How do you expect the broadcasters to deal with that? Should they give time to the anti-vax and anti-mask people as well?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
It does, but it leads me on to one or two further questions. Is it part of your role—or that of your office or your colleagues—to tick off or challenge organisations that misuse statistics or data, or that come up with false ones?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
Thanks for that.
Will Moy, your example involved pregnant or potentially pregnant women and the varying advice, which kept changing. I want to explore that example a bit. As I understand it, when the vaccines first came out they had not been tested on pregnant women. It was said that, logically, pregnant women would not be getting the vaccine to start with. That put a question into people’s minds that perhaps it was dangerous for pregnant women. Perhaps you can respond on this, too, Dr Holford—on this point about acknowledging uncertainty and avoiding false certainty. In a sense, that did happen with pregnancy—people acknowledged the uncertainty—but that in itself created a problem, did it not?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
I have one final issue to raise. Last week, people from the Royal Society of Edinburgh was giving evidence at an informal session, and they were quite keen on the idea of some kind of independent fact-checking service. Maybe that is what some of you feel that you are doing—people can check with you. Is that something that we should be looking at?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
That is great. Thanks very much.
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
You said that broadcasters have to broadcast in a way that
“does not undermine public health information”.
However, the advice changed as we went along. In relation to masks, for example, some people claimed that they would harm us, because we would keep all our bugs and get more of them—or that kind of thing. What is the balance there? Perhaps the public health information has been wrong. What will happen then?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
I was intrigued by one or two of the practical examples that were mentioned earlier. I will start with Tracey Brown and the concept of the bus driver having to decide whether to leave a teenager on the road because they did not have a mask on. I am interested in unpicking that example. Maybe the bus driver—maybe all bus drivers and all of us—should have better understood how efficient masks were, what the ventilation was like on the bus, how busy the bus was, how far the journey was and all those sorts of factors, but that is probably a bit much to expect the bus driver to assess there and then. Should his company have given him better direction? Should the Government have given the bus company a clearer picture of how much flexibility it had? What went wrong there and what could we have done better?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
John Mason
Would you expect other people, such as politicians, to counter the misinformation, or do you think that none of us should do that?