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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

John Mason

Exactly.

I agree that we could raise taxes more. I thought that the little graph showing 20 countries and that countries such as Denmark and Norway pay considerably more in tax and get much better public services was very good. I do not know whether you want to comment on that.

I cannot remember exactly when the Government came out with the figures of 9 per cent and 3 per cent—I think that it was at the start of this year. Do you think that that was worth while, or should the Government be speaking to either the STUC or individual unions during the autumn, asking what pay settlement you would want, before it speaks to COSLA or anyone else? How do you see that process working?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

John Mason

Perhaps people can incorporate a response to this question in their final remarks. In its submission, COSLA talks about prevention and early intervention. What, in general, do you think about that? Should we be doing that better in the budget process? Should we have something alongside each of the budget lines that says, “This one’s for prevention”, “This one’s for early intervention” and “This one’s for neither”, or is that just impossible? One could argue that the line for, say, colleges would be both early intervention and just normal practice.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

John Mason

I am with you on that, even though I am not in a party now.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

John Mason

Is that not happening at the moment?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

John Mason

I am interested in the idea of a pre-budget statement, which I read about in your submission, Alison—others have mentioned it as well. I presume that you or anyone else can engage earlier; you do not have to wait for the Government to do something. If you want to say to the Government that it has to spend more money on something, you can do that at any time of the year—you do not have to wait for the budget.

We already have a very complex landscape, and the public does not understand it. If we had a pre-budget statement, would that not just confuse the public even more? Also, there has been a huge increase in the number of civil servants. Would it not just mean yet more civil servants and money being taken away from front-line services?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

John Mason

My question is in the same area. I thought that your submission was very good. It was four pages long and was easy to read, and it had a big emphasis on—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

John Mason

Should that be happening now for 2026-27?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

John Mason

I take on board what the member said in response, but, from his argument and from my experience, it seems to be more the specific people who were involved who were not having regard to what the committee, or even, perhaps, the Government, said.

However, that is always a risk in almost every situation, and I have to wonder whether putting what is proposed in legislation is not overdoing things. I have a fear that the same could happen in other organisations—they could stop listening to Parliament. I just do not think that we can put this into all legislation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

John Mason

I take on board what the member said in response, but, from his argument and from my experience, it seems to be more the specific people who were involved who were not having regard to what the committee, or even, perhaps, the Government, said.

However, that is always a risk in almost every situation, and I have to wonder whether putting what is proposed in legislation is not overdoing things. I have a fear that the same could happen in other organisations—they could stop listening to Parliament. I just do not think that we can put this into all legislation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

John Mason

Can I make a point of order, convener?