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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 January 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

The police put forward the argument that public inquiries inform public debate. Is it not a problem when they go on for so long? Take the Edinburgh tram inquiry, for example. Did that end up helping the public? Did it help anyone, really?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

You and I are both victims, in a sense—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

You are highlighting a problem, but you are not advising that we should base the levy on value. It seems to me that, if an apartment flat in one place was sold for twice as much as an apartment flat in another place, the owner should pay twice as much levy. That would seem logical.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

You have mentioned that, when the cladding is looked at, a variety of other issues will come to light underneath the cladding, such as asbestos. In practice, how do you see the system working? If someone went to do the cladding work and discovered another problem, what would happen after that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

Mr Drummond?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

Fair enough.

You said that all the different parties have to have lawyers. I wonder whether that is the case. Could we have a more inquisitorial approach and a less confrontational approach in public inquiries? I am also on the Education, Children and Young People Committee, which is looking into children’s hearings. There is a strong argument to be made that an inquisitorial approach should be taken in that system, with information being found out by asking the children and the families, rather than by the two parties having lawyers. Do you think that we could have public inquiries without having lawyers on both sides?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

I am sorry—can they not represent themselves?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

But we are considering changing the statutory requirements, so none of that is fixed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

You say that participants should be properly heard, and I agree with that, but I get constituents who, if I let them, would speak to me for five hours on their housing needs, their medical needs or whatever. I just do not have that time, and I have to restrict the time that they have to speak to me. I get the main points, they get a bit longer to explain the situation and then I have to draw the discussion to a close. A general practitioner gives people eight or 10 minutes. Should there not be a bit more control, so that the participants and the lawyers do not get to speak for as long as they want to?

I am an accountant, and audits have to be done in a certain time. You do the best that you can in three months for a million pounds or whatever the cost to do that might be. Could we not go down that route?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

John Mason

I hear what you are saying, and I realise that that is what is happening at the moment. We are trying to explore whether there is a better or different way of doing it.