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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Okay.

The third area that I want to touch on, and which you have touched on, is the idea of getting Parliament—committees and the chamber—to sign up to the idea of preventative spend. The emphasis on accident and emergency departments, ambulance waiting times and other such things is understandable but goes against that idea. The temptation for, or the pressures on, the Government to put more money into A and E are exactly the opposite of preventative spend. Is Parliament partly responsible for the lack of movement towards preventative spend?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

I agree with much of that. I suppose that the questions are high profile because politicians make them so, but they are also easier to measure than our work in the communities.

We keep coming back to disinvestment. If we are going to try to put more into primary or community care, where will the money come from? One of the witnesses asked whether we could use our tax or borrowing powers for a one-off investment. One of my suggestions was to take 1 per cent off the hospitals to put into community care. However, I suspect that that would not help A and E waiting times. Many years ago, a state in America decided not to build a prison, but instead to put the money into supporting youth and so on, which meant that there was a problem with overcrowded prisons in the short term.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Has any member, party or committee ever asked you to take money out of acute services and put it into preventative services?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Yes—although I presume that, although Shetland might learn some things from Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board, it would not follow everything that that board does.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

That is helpful—thank you very much. I will put the same question to Margaret Wilson. Is that your reading of the situation from a parents and young people’s angle?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

I think that it is helpful to hear that there is a variety of views on those issues.

I will move on to vaccination, and put the question to Mr Greenhorn in the first instance. What is the general feeling of teachers and pupils on vaccine uptake?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

That is helpful. We have heard that there has been lower uptake of vaccination among adults in poorer areas and among some ethnic minorities. Is that your understanding of the position among school pupils as well?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

It is useful to know that we do not have those figures. Does anyone else on the panel want to comment on vaccination among young people? To widen the issue out, should we be vaccinating under-12s as well?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

Mr Thewliss, do schools have a role in encouraging both teachers and pupils to get vaccinated?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

We assume that the uptake among teachers is just the same as that of the wider population.