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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

As Mr Flanagan is still on screen, I will carry on with him. Earlier in the pandemic, the accusation came to me through emails and so on from some parents that we were overemphasising the wellbeing of the staff and underemphasising the wellbeing of the children. How do you respond to that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

We assume that the uptake among teachers is just the same as that of the wider population.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

I have a feeling that those figures may not be available. I just wondered whether you had a feeling for that. What about the uptake among pupils? Is there resistance there? The uptake seems to be encouraging, but I do not know whether it is tailing off a bit.

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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

That is helpful—thank you very much. I will put the same question to Margaret Wilson. Is that your reading of the situation from a parents and young people’s angle?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

I think that it is helpful to hear that there is a variety of views on those issues.

I will move on to vaccination, and put the question to Mr Greenhorn in the first instance. What is the general feeling of teachers and pupils on vaccine uptake?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statements and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2021

John Mason

Until now, we have put a lot more emphasis or trust in the polymerase chain reaction tests. Do Professor Petersen’s studies bring the two types of test more into balance?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statements and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 November 2021

John Mason

Thank you.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 18 November 2021

John Mason

Others may come back to you on that, but I appreciate that answer.

I want to switch to things that Mr Stevenson has said about vaccination passports, for example. Do you think that you have been slightly overstating your case, that there has been a certain amount of crying wolf, and that people are not taking you seriously because you use such strong language, such as the word “devastating”? That is my key question.

I have tried to get into a restaurant in Edinburgh on a Wednesday night, and it was absolutely full, and I have gone into a pub in Edinburgh on a Wednesday night, and I could not find a seat. In Glasgow last Friday night, I was in a restaurant that was absolutely full. Parts of the hospitality and licensed trade sector seem to be doing absolutely fine. I went into a COP26 event the other week and showed my passport, and there was no problem; it was absolutely fine. It seems that, in France, a person can go into a cafe or a shop, show their passport, and there are no problems. Do you think that you are overstating your case?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 18 November 2021

John Mason

Thank you for that.

I will switch to Leon Thompson. The argument has been put previously that, if vaccination passports were used more widely, businesses and individuals would be more familiar with them, so they would become the norm. From what I have heard, that has been the case in France—one of my staff was there recently. Do you think that that would be the case? If a negative test was part of the system, would you be more comfortable with it?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 18 November 2021

John Mason

I want to switch to Professor Petersen and the question of testing. I had a look at the paper that explains why lateral flow testing may be relatively better now, or better than it was thought to be, in comparison with polymerase chain reaction testing. However, the paper was quite complex. Will you briefly and in simple words explain for me where you have got to with that?