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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statements and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

John Mason

That is helpful.

Finally, what about children aged from five to 11? Are we thinking of vaccinating them?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Are you, therefore, positive about the health and social care partnerships?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Okay.

The third area that I want to touch on, and which you have touched on, is the idea of getting Parliament—committees and the chamber—to sign up to the idea of preventative spend. The emphasis on accident and emergency departments, ambulance waiting times and other such things is understandable but goes against that idea. The temptation for, or the pressures on, the Government to put more money into A and E are exactly the opposite of preventative spend. Is Parliament partly responsible for the lack of movement towards preventative spend?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

I agree with much of that. I suppose that the questions are high profile because politicians make them so, but they are also easier to measure than our work in the communities.

We keep coming back to disinvestment. If we are going to try to put more into primary or community care, where will the money come from? One of the witnesses asked whether we could use our tax or borrowing powers for a one-off investment. One of my suggestions was to take 1 per cent off the hospitals to put into community care. However, I suspect that that would not help A and E waiting times. Many years ago, a state in America decided not to build a prison, but instead to put the money into supporting youth and so on, which meant that there was a problem with overcrowded prisons in the short term.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Has any member, party or committee ever asked you to take money out of acute services and put it into preventative services?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Yes—although I presume that, although Shetland might learn some things from Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board, it would not follow everything that that board does.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

Another area that was covered by the Christie commission was working together effectively. Out of that came the integration joint boards and health and social care partnerships. I asked witnesses at the meeting on 9 November this question. From my perspective, it seems that we used to have two bodies and we now have three. I used to go to either the health board or the council with a case, whereas I can now go to the health board, the council or the health and social care partnership. Does that system work? Has the creation of another organisation been a good or bad example of working together?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

John Mason

I will continue that theme. You gave the example of Aberfeldy and the good things that are happening there. There is tension between local empowerment, which was a Christie commission principle, and the idea of uniformity and the criticism that there is a postcode lottery. In your final example, accident and emergency staff in Glasgow might do things one way, while in Edinburgh or Aberdeen they are done differently. Can we square that circle, or is it inevitable that some people will say that things are too centralised and others will say that there is a postcode lottery?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

John Mason

Mr Thewliss, do schools have a role in encouraging both teachers and pupils to get vaccinated?