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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

Ms Allison, do you have any views on this point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

—given that we do not have a definition of “care experience”.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

That is fair enough, thanks. I will move on to what I am supposed to be asking about before the convener gives me a row.

Ms Whitelock, on the financial side, you said quite a lot on behalf of COSLA about profits for residential care providers and the question of whether or not fostering agencies should be charities. First, is there a problem with profit and residential providers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

Can I ask about providers exiting the market? For clarity, is the fear that, if we regulate the market more or require providers to not make or at least not distribute a profit, for example, some providers will just walk away and we will then have a problem with a lack of provision? Is that the concern?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

Do you have a clear definition of profit?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

Was that mainly about England and Wales?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

Does anyone else want to come in on that point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

The bill cannot cover that area as well, but I accept that it is part of the answer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

John Mason

I would like to talk about money, profits and so on. Ms Wilson, you tell us that we should learn from the Welsh experience. What should we learn?