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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

John Mason

Thank you very much.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

John Mason

Okay. Looking ahead to future vaccinations or boosters, we know that protection and immunity wane over time, so what is the present thinking about when people will need a fourth dose? Will that be before next winter or earlier than that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

John Mason

Sticking with the vaccine theme, where are we on 5 to 11-year-olds? Has there been any change in the JCVI thinking or is the roll-out still just to the vulnerable ones?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

John Mason

Do we know whether the JCVI is looking at vaccinations for all 5 to 11-year-olds, or is that not on the table?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

John Mason

Before Christmas, when we heard about omicron, the message from South Africa seemed to be that it was transmitting faster but was less serious than previous variants. Various reasons were given for why we should not accept that that would be the case here—it was mentioned, for example, that South Africa had a different climate and that the population was younger. Looking back, should we have accepted the South African experience more readily?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

John Mason

My final question is one that I asked John Swinney when he was finance secretary, so I thought that I would ask you it, too. How many times has an Opposition MSP or party asked you to reduce current reactive spending in order to put more into preventative spending? Have you had many approaches from parties or individuals along those lines?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

John Mason

That was a nice, short answer. Are the Westminster folk open to moving down that route?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

John Mason

Thank you very much. That was helpful.

With regard to the uncertainty around the £620 million, which has been mentioned, I note that one of the elements is the personal allowance spillover. I realise that that has been going on for quite some time now, although I note from your response that you hope that the situation will be resolved this year. By “this year”, do you mean by March, which is only two months from now, or at some point during 2022? Given how long the situation has been going on, should we be a little bit pessimistic and assume that it will not be resolved soon?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

John Mason

I should point out that I live in my own constituency, so I am certainly not your constituent, convener.

We have covered a lot of areas. Liz Smith pointed out that there are certain parallels between the relationship that we have with Westminster and the relationship that local government has with us, so there are lessons that we can all learn from one another.

I am thinking about the year end and wondering whether we can learn lessons from local government. I understand that councils have reserves and, broadly, can even out their year-end balances better by using money that they have been able to keep in reserve. Some of that money is for a particular purpose and some of it is just kept for general purposes. Are there lessons that we can learn from that, which might improve the situation with regard to the reserves that we are allowed to keep in terms of our relationship with Westminster?

On the capital side, we have what I feel is quite an artificial limit of £3 billion, whereas local government has a prudential borrowing opportunity, which seems to work quite well.

In general, do you think that we could improve the fiscal framework by learning from those relationships?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

John Mason

I am sure that the committee is unanimous in wishing you well on that.

Another area that has already been touched on is that of what the impact on us will be of any announcement of spending at UK level. We accept that last year was exceptional, with huge Barnett consequentials, some of which were guaranteed during the year. I follow the logic that that cannot happen on an on-going basis, although we could probably argue about that. You will have a better understanding than I do of what people at Westminster think about that.

If new money is announced at Westminster for, say, a care service in England, for health or, indeed, for anything, should not those who make the announcement, at the time that they make it, have an idea of how much of that is new money and how much is being reallocated? I assume that when you make a spending announcement, you will have had to think about how much of the money has been reallocated from somewhere else—as you recently made clear with the extra support that was made available—and how much of it is new money from somewhere.

Could the Government at Westminster not do more to give an indication in that regard? As you have said, its position completely changed within the space of a few days. Could it be a bit more open in that respect, or does it just not have those figures?