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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

What about you, Ms Thompson?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Fair enough.

A linked issue is that of foster care and the idea that the organisations involved in that work should be charities, which is a slightly different approach. Again—and this is perhaps a question for Ms Burns—is it sensible to have a different approach for fostering?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Ms Galli, do you want to comment? The others are nodding but I could not see you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

So, you are not against profit to some extent; you are against excessive profit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Yes, and that does not appear in the bill or in other relevant documents yet.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Is there evidence, either in Scotland or in England or Wales or elsewhere, that private organisations that are run for profit give a lower level of care than charities?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

So, in a sense, you are arguing that what happens to the profit is more important than whether there is a profit or not, and that a non-profit-distributing or charity model is better.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Sorry, but I think that those definitions are a key point in this.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

I will probably explore that with other witnesses in the future.

We are dealing with the idea that the fostering agencies would definitely be a charity, whereas we would need to look at residential care a bit more. Is that a reasonable approach? Should the two be treated more similarly?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

We will follow that up as well. Did you want to say anything on that, Sheriff Mackie?