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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
I just wondered whether it was referring to a different figure, or whether I was misreading it.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
I am sorry—that was a little unfair of me. I think that you are saying that that will be one of the factors that you consider when you look at how we might go forward. If one particular scheme could be run easily compared to another scheme that would be complex to run, you would take into account the cost of administration.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
Paragraph 56 of the financial memorandum talks about the transition costs, which are to be £64 million. I assume that that is a one-off cost and will happen over a period but not be repeated. The following paragraph goes on to say that implementation costs are not included. It says:
“These costs are currently excluded”.
Will you explain to me the difference between transition costs and implementation costs and why the implementation costs are excluded?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
Might that include more IT investment?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
I return to the convener’s line of questioning on administration costs. Paragraph 47 of the financial memorandum mentions a figure of £61 million. I was a little unclear about its other mention of 11 per cent. What was that £61 million 11 per cent of?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
Is that IT refresh or whatever in your budget for the coming year?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
Mr Halcro Johnston referred to the crisis reserve. Is that the same as the national reserve that is referred to?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
Okay. I will leave it at that. If you want to write to us, you can do so. I am an outsider to this, so I was simply intrigued.
My final point is on the question of costs for other organisations. Scotland’s Rural College suggested that farms would have to produce whole-farm plans and that there would be a cost to that. Would you accept that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
Okay—I will leave that with you. It would be good if the figure were less than 10 per cent, I suppose.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Mason
My next question was going to be whether 11 per cent was a reasonable figure. Do you benchmark that percentage against costs in other countries? I do not know what Denmark or anywhere else spends, for example. However, at last week’s meeting of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, we heard that Social Security Scotland is aiming for a figure of 5.2 per cent for its costs to distribute benefits, which is also quite a complex area.