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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Skills Development Scotland

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

John Mason

Okay—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

John Mason

As far as I am aware, the public are not getting excited about the national performance framework—none of them sends me abusive emails about it, although they do about other things. Is that important, Deputy First Minister? You seem to be saying that the thinking is the important thing. We, the local authorities, charities and the third sector are all thinking about the values in the NPF but not necessarily talking about them using those words. Are you satisfied with that, or would it be better if more people throughout society were talking about the national performance framework?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

John Mason

The idea that we should not work in silos and that we should be collaborative has come up quite a lot, and I fully agree with it. The counter to that—a slightly different suggestion—from some organisations is that it would help for organisations such as local authorities, universities or the health service to be tied more into specific outcomes, rather than everybody being responsible for everything. The thinking is that it is harder to hold bodies such as NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde to account if they are responsible for everything, whereas it is easier to hold them to account if they are responsible for one or two things.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

John Mason

Should every individual bus driver, teacher or family centre be making such decisions? Was the system too rigid?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

John Mason

Thanks very much. We are beginning to run out of time, I think, but Mr Hood, do you want to come in next?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

John Mason

Thanks. Tracey Brown?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

John Mason

Would you expect other people, such as politicians, to counter the misinformation, or do you think that none of us should do that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

John Mason

How does that work? Do you have a relationship with Ofcom or with the BBC?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

John Mason

Okay. I come to my final question. Last week, the Royal Society of Edinburgh suggested to us that it would like there to be an independent fact-checking service. Would that just duplicate what you are doing, or might it be useful?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

John Mason

I was intrigued by one or two of the practical examples that were mentioned earlier. I will start with Tracey Brown and the concept of the bus driver having to decide whether to leave a teenager on the road because they did not have a mask on. I am interested in unpicking that example. Maybe the bus driver—maybe all bus drivers and all of us—should have better understood how efficient masks were, what the ventilation was like on the bus, how busy the bus was, how far the journey was and all those sorts of factors, but that is probably a bit much to expect the bus driver to assess there and then. Should his company have given him better direction? Should the Government have given the bus company a clearer picture of how much flexibility it had? What went wrong there and what could we have done better?