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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

I take your point that we might not want that level of detail to be in the bill. However, the issue of reporting has concerned some grant-aided and independent schools so they have raised that with us.

I will move on to the question of training, which has been touched on already. The idea of there being a list of training providers has also created something of a response. Would councils that already do a lot of in-house training still be able to do that, or would they need to go to an external provider?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

We have touched on some of the issues that I want to raise already, but I would like to pin down what is proposed for reporting. It seems to me that there are three main options: a school reports to the local authority where the children come from, which might or might not be the local authority where the school is; a school reports to the local authority where the school is; or a school reports purely at a national level. Am I right in saying that you are leaning towards a school reporting to the local authority where the school is?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

But if you do not get the de-escalation right, are you not more likely to get into a physical situation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

Should that training become part of initial teacher training?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

As well as regulating physical restraint, is it important to regulate the de-escalation that might prevent it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

That will vary quite a lot. There are specialist schools—one like Donaldson’s being the gold standard—and special needs schools, but there are also mainstream schools where you might end up with two kids hitting each other, or a kid hitting a teacher. Any teacher in any school could end up in a confrontation where there is a need for physical intervention, which implies that every teacher needs training in that area.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

When we visited Donaldson’s on Monday, we got the impression that, because various local authorities, especially those in the east of Scotland, pay for young people to be sent there, the relationship is primarily with the original authority—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

The convener has touched on this next point, but it strikes me that, if there is a problem in a particular school but it reports to 10 different local authorities because the kids come from 10 different places, it might be difficult to pick up that problem, whereas, if the school has to report to the local authority where it is located—it might have to be both—that local authority might be able to pick up on the fact that there might be a bigger problem.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

John Mason

If we put a tax on each one of them, the cost of collecting it would be horrendous.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

John Mason

When you say “go after”, do you mean tax them or sue them?