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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

That is fair enough. I was just wondering about the financial side of things, because that is my background. Every part of this seems to work differently, but your response has been helpful and clarifies things a bit.

Professor Peacock, your report in particular was very glowing about how things went, and COG-UK seems to have been a total success. There is, in fact, nothing negative in the report at all. I think that RAND Europe did an overview, too, and everything that it said was also positive. Surely something went wrong. Could some things have been done better? For example, did people not join up as quickly as they should have done? Is there anything that did not go right?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

And is that for Scotland?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

Is that per year?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

Okay, thanks.

My final point concerns a question that I put to the earlier panel, which was about the desire to have a chief scientist for public health. Does any of you have an opinion on that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

I am tempted to get into a debate on some of that. As you will probably know, in the political field everyone wants the money to go into accident and emergency, to deal with the actual issues.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

That sounds very positive. Does Professor Gunson want to come in?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

Seeing as you are there, I will ask you this. I do not totally understand some of the technical stuff that we were given. For example, a Scottish Government report on modelling the spread of Covid-19 says that, in November,

“wastewater Covid-19 levels were in the range of 21 to 32 million gene copies per person per day.”

Can you or one of your colleagues explain even roughly what that means?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

The conversation has been really interesting. I have to say that I am not an expert on sewage or related matters.

I will start with a question for George Ponton. What waste water surveillance was going on before Covid, particularly on diseases? What were you actually looking for, and how much water surveillance was happening?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

Dr Helliwell, were other countries doing that? Did the idea of testing the water start with Covid?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Mason

That is an interesting point. Where I live, people are now trying to separate rainwater from sewage. Is that important? Would that be helpful?