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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 July 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

Do we need to go to a private model?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

I understand that but, from the Government’s point of view, it is writing a cheque and at the moment it is for items. If that changes, will the Government have to write a bigger cheque?

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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

I think that we are all on the same theme of reform, so I will stick to that.

I liked the bullet points in your written submission, Dr Bashir, which certainly covers a lot of ground. One of them, right towards the end, states:

“We are not asking for extra money”.

However, all I am hearing so far is that this is going to cost a lot of money. If you go from seeing 40 patients a day to seeing 10, I presume that you need four times as many dentists or other staff, so there has to be a big increase in money, does there not?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

Mr McColl, are you speaking to the Government and, if so, what is the Government saying?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

Do we know of any country that has a completely state-funded system and very little private dental care?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

Is the Government listening to you or only to the BDA or what?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

Do you know how much extra it cost the Government to put money into the dental service during Covid?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

So you got extra money and you did not see me, because I have not been to the dentist for three years.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

Right, I will leave it at that.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

John Mason

The answer to that is that I am also speaking to general practitioners and you have said that you would like to have a system like the GP system, but the GPs are also unhappy. They cannot recruit staff or locums and so on and people have to stay in the hospitals. There is therefore a huge amount wrong with the GP system.

One suggestion is that the health boards should employ all the GPs, and that might be another possibility for dentists. Let us employ all the dentists. Would that work?