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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

Is the audit taking longer this year because of the problems?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

That is appreciated.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

I was going to ask whether any of you were there at that time. I presume that the auditors do not come out with a statement like that out of the blue. They will have discussed it with you or your predecessors. I presume that, in December 2023, you were convinced that it was a going concern.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

Thank you. The accounts talk about the committees, including a finance and policy committee and an audit and risk committee. I assume that there are similar committees now. Could they have been very thorough in their questioning, if what happened was such a surprise last autumn?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

Could you expand on that a little bit? Were you actually given false accounts, or was it more that the commentary was misleading?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

Okay. I saw one amount in particular—a spin-out of £40 million, which was being held separately. Is that correct? It was included in the £74 million, but it was going to be used for strategic investment. Has that £40 million been used, or is it still there?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

Good morning. I was having a look at your latest financial statements, which I think are the July 2023 ones. Am I right in saying that the July 2024 ones have not yet been published?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

Is the auditor still Ernst & Young?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

I will pick out a few points out of the previous accounts that we have. The first is the auditor’s opinion that the university was still a going concern in July 2023—in fact, it presumably thought that it was still a concern in December, because it did not sign the accounts until then. It said:

“Based on the work we have performed, we have not identified any material uncertainties relating to events or conditions that, individually or collectively, may cast significant doubt on the group and institution’s ability to continue as a going concern for the period to 31 July 2025”.

I presume that you and the auditors were happy with that statement. At December 2023, there were absolutely no worries about the university being a going concern. Is that correct?

09:30  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

John Mason

I do not mind who answers.