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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
I am reassured that you are involved at Dundee in the audit and risk committee and the finance and policy committee.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
One question that has arisen—I do not know whether we have reached a conclusion on this yet—is whether the committees’ scrutiny of the executive was sufficient. I presume that you will now pick that up at Dundee. Do you normally have direct interaction with such committees to reassure yourselves, or would you rely on the internal auditors to reassure you?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
Yes. Do you interact with the external auditors at all?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
Can you say anything about what Ernst & Young said, or is that confidential?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
Fair enough.
The accounts talk about the identified key risks and mention the five top ones, which are cybersecurity, student experience, staff experience, research excellence and financial sustainability. I have to say that the descriptions are quite vague. Under student experience, it says that bad student experience could go on to mean a reduction in student recruitment, but student recruitment was not one of the top risks. Do you look at those identified key risks and assess them in some way, or do you challenge them or accept them?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
Is the audit taking longer this year because of the problems?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
That is appreciated.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
I was going to ask whether any of you were there at that time. I presume that the auditors do not come out with a statement like that out of the blue. They will have discussed it with you or your predecessors. I presume that, in December 2023, you were convinced that it was a going concern.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
Thank you. The accounts talk about the committees, including a finance and policy committee and an audit and risk committee. I assume that there are similar committees now. Could they have been very thorough in their questioning, if what happened was such a surprise last autumn?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
John Mason
Could you expand on that a little bit? Were you actually given false accounts, or was it more that the commentary was misleading?