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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

I might come back to you on that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

Professor Bell, do you want to come in again?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

Would health also be partly demand led?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

Both of you gave helpful answers. You deal with different audiences—you have specialised people who know everything from back to front and you have the public, while MSPs and MPs are probably somewhere in the middle. The SFC has also been grappling with that and is trying to communicate more with the wider public.

The convener asked you about the word “transparency”. In one sense, the more data you produce, the more transparent the position might become for the experts, but is there a danger that that would make it less transparent and more complex for the ordinary person on the street?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

You mentioned making a central forecast and that you are also trying to point out the risks and the variations that there could be. With tariffs, we really do not know what will happen. Things might get worse or they might get better. Also, there might be a trade deal. Do you think that that is well understood? Presumably, experts who read your reports get that, but does the wider population understand that, when you are making a forecast, that forecast is in the middle of a range of possibilities?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

I will continue on that theme and play devil’s advocate. As Liz Smith has pointed out, things can happen in the very short term, whether that be changes to employer national insurance contributions, welfare or American tariffs—or all of those things. Given that, is there any point in making five-year forecasts, let alone 50-year forecasts?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

There is one final area that I want to touch on. Both the SFC and the OBR are thinking of doing more on the expenditure side in general, rather than just looking at tax forecasts and social security. I think that the OBR is further down that route. Would that be helpful? Is it a good idea?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

That is great. Thanks very much for your help.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

Has the OBR had extra resources for that? It sounds like extra work.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

That was also helpful. Thanks.

Finally, you have said that you might be—in fact, you are—looking more at spending and going into more detail on that. That has been an issue for the SFC, too. Do you think that it should be? Does it make sense for the commission to do the same in Scotland?