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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

Right. The SPF makes the point that

“it seems grossly unfair that those in higher ranks who are also higher earners are having their financial costs paid ... yet the federated ranking officers are having to pay for their defence either personally or through their professional subscriptions.”

Is there an inconsistency there?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

Would it be part of the medium-term financial strategy, or is it a completely separate thing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

Okay. Perhaps you could just clarify something for me. One of the phrases that is used a few times is “balanced pathway scenario”. I am sure that everybody else understands it, but I do not. Will you clarify what a balanced pathway scenario is? Is it a CCC term?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

Are you saying that the figure is not based on ownership, but on an estimate of where the expenditure would come from?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

That is what I was wondering, because a lot of private owners would not be able to afford very much investment.

A lot of the report is looking at additional investment. However, we are already spending quite a lot on, for example, agriculture, with the replacement for the common agricultural policy. How does that interact here? Is that a factor? That money is already going out, but we can tweak it a bit as to how it is used.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

I have a couple of questions on some of the assumptions and details. I do not quite understand the point that, if somebody has retired or has otherwise left the service, the costs might be higher in their case than the costs for somebody who is still in the police service. Will you explain what happens there?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

How do the costs vary because of that? Would the cost for Police Scotland or for the individual officer be different and would the costs be handled differently, depending on whether the person is in the service or has left?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

If we take forestry, I think that we have been planting more trees than elsewhere in the UK, but that is not enough, in a sense, because the potential for tree planting in Scotland is presumably huge, and it is bigger than in the rest of the UK.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Report on Climate Change and Fiscal Sustainability)

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

That is helpful—thank you.

You have talked about damage, adaptation and mitigation. On adaptation in particular, you have said that you need more plans, costs and data. Is it the case that it does not matter how much data we have, because we are still very uncertain about where we are going? Can there ever be enough data to give us solid projections?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

John Mason

I am not sure that I understand or that I am explaining myself very well. In Police Scotland’s evidence, it says:

“The legal costs involved in defending such challenges vary but will always be significant. An example of the level of costs that can be incurred was provided”,

and it goes on. Police Scotland seems to suggest that the costs would be different. If an officer had left, they might want their own legal representation, whereas they would not if they were still in the police.